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that is our broadcast for this thursday evening. thank you so very much for being here with us. good night from our nbc headquarters here in new york. ♪ it's a any era of divided government on capitol hill. democrats have taken control of the house with nancy pelosi reclaiming the speaker's gavel. as we enter day 14 of the government shutdown, president trump is touting support for his border wall, but new polling doesn't seem to reflect his comments. another rough day on wall street as apple becomes one of the casualties of trump's trade war with china. investors are hoping for a little relief. good morning, everybody. it is friday, january 4th. i'm yasmin vossoughian.
we're going to begin with the newly sworn-in speaker of the house, democrat nancy pelosi of california, scheduled to visit the white house this morning as votes to reopen the government passed the chamber late last night. one bill approved short-term funding for the department of homeland security through february 8th to allow more time for border security negotiations. five republicans joined all democrats in support of that vote, while another bill to fund the remaining shutdown agencies through the end of the fiscal year passed with 241 votes. in a news conference before last night's vote, speaker pelosi delivered her terms for what she will give on the president's wall. >> is there any situation which you would accept even a dollar of wall funding for this president in order to reopen government? >> a dollar? [ laughter ] >> a dollar. one dollar?
yeah, one dollar. >> how high are you willing to go? >> you said a dollar. >> how high are you going to go? >> that's not your question. you said a dollar. the fact is a wall is an immorality. it's not who we are as a nation. >> the senate majority leader is saying the house bills have no chance of passing the upper chamber. republican senator mitch mcconnell caused the proposals, quote, political theater, not producti iive law making. he is facing cracks within his congress. yesterday two republican senators corey gardener of colorado and susan collins of maine both called for an end to the shutdown even if the solution does not include border wall funds and is merely temporary. this as senator collins tells time magazine that it is her intention to run again in 2020 although she has not announced a final decision.
trump's first year in office collins voted along party lines 87% of the time, more than any other year she has been a senator. quote, i'm very worried about that, collins says. nancy pelosi became the first person in more than 60 years to reclaim the gavel. she won with 220 votes after beating back a rebellion within her own party. kevin mccarthy received 192 votes. pelosi was sworn in surrounded by her grandchildren and the children of other house members who she invited the day the oath was administered. upon accepting the gavel yesterday, the house speaker declared a season of change. >> two months ago the american people spoke and demanded a new dawn. they called upon the beauty of our constitution that our system of checks and balances that
protects our democracy, remembering that the legislative branch is article i, the first branch of government coequal to the presidency and to the judiciary. i'm particularly proud to be a woman speaker of the house of this congress, which marks the 100th year of women having the right to vote. [ cheers and applause ] >> and we all have the ability and the privilege to serve with over 100 women members of congress, the largest number in history. [ applause ] >> quite a historical day certainly on that note. as the "new york times" notes, when nancy pelosi first entered congress in 1987 there were only 23 women in the house, 12 democrats and 11 republicans. today there are a record 102 women, 89 democrats and 13
republicans. the department of homeland security has asked the department of defense to deploy more troops to the southern border to help add 160 miles of wire on top of existing border fencing, three u.s. officials telling nbc news. according if the deployment is approved it could extend troops' stay through the end of november. troops had been requested by dhs along the california and arizona borders to construct or upgrade fencing and provide medical care to families arriving from central america. dhs and the defense department officials are scheduled to meet today to discuss the details of the possible deployment. the military mission on the border which began two months ago was set to wrap up at the end of this month. and president trump defended his stalemate with democrat lawmakers over funding for his
border wall, telling reporters he has the support of the american people. >> we're going to make it good. the people of our country want it. i have never had so much support as i have in the last week over my stance for border security, for border control and for, frankly, the wall or the barrier. >> so here's the thing. just 35% of americans say they support funding for the wall according to a recent reuters poll. 48% oppose the wall. 17% said they are unsure. meanwhile trump also followed up with this claim. >> we've never had more people wanting to come to the united states and that has to do with the economy and has to do with a lot of other things. >> but despite the markets having their worst december since the great depression, the
"new york times" also reporting that, according to government data, monthly border crossings are dra mat cmatically lower thy were years ago. joining me jeff mason. good to talk to you this morning. democrats voted to reopen the government yesterday, deferring the shutdown's future to the senate and president trump's desk. no money for the border wall, as nancy pelosi talked about. what are the chances that these bills are even going to see a vote in the senate? >> well, that's a good question. it doesn't sound like they will make it very far. certainly the fact that mitch mcconnell said it's a waste of time is an indication that he is unlikely to bring them up for a vote. he's describing that as being a political play on the part of the democrats. the democrats in the house, of course, seeing it as a sign or wanting it to be a sign that they're here to govern and prepared to open the government after it's been shut down for so
long. so it is certainly the beginning of divided government as you have said. and we'll sew how far it goes. we'll also have to see to what extent the meeting today produces any sense of compromise. >> if this thing doesn't even see a vote, then what? >> well, then it's back to negotiations, because that's the only way that eventually the government will open. so they will give a shot at negotiations at the white house around 11:30. white house officials were in the particularly complimentary of how talks went a couple diagnoses ago and suggested that nancy pelosi needed to win her election as speaker before it could go any further. as you saw with speaker pelosi's comments last night after she was elected, her stance hasn't changed now that she is for sure the speaker. i think she appears to be even more emboldened to stick to her
guns about not giving funding to the wall. >> does the administration's request to send more troops to the border and to add water on t -- wire on top of the existing border fencing, does that seem like a confessicession for the ? >> the president has been changing his rhetoric a little bit, changing his vocabulary a little bit about the wall. he said yesterday you can call it whatever you want. he and white house officials have been referring to it as steel slats. that's sort of all in one piece. with sending troops to the border, it could be a concession in so far as they're just looking for anyway they can to build some sort of a barrier, to build what they firmly believe is absolutely required for national security and also required to show the president's political base that he is fulfilling a promise that was a central message of his 2016 campaign. u.s. stocks are hoping for
some relief this morning after another day of massive drops following apple's warning over the impact of president trump's trade wars. the dow shed another 660 points or nearly 3% yesterday. the s&p 500 and nasdaq were also down about 2.5 and 3%. the latest hit of course coming after apple said it was cutting its earnings guidance over slowing iphone sales in china as a result of the president's trade war with beijing. technology stocks as a whole sank 5%, marking the sector's worst day in seven years. a key gauge of u.s. manufacturing also came in weak for last month, heightening investor concerns about slowing global growth. amid the fallout, of course, over apple's move, a top economic advisor to president trump acknowledged that the trade war is damaging u.s. businesses dealing with china. >> it's not going to be just
apple. i think there are a heck of a lot of u.s. companies that have sales in china that are basically going to be watching their earnings be downgraded until we get a deal with china. >> despite that tough assessment from his own administration, president trump is painting a far rosier picture, tweeting this. the united states treasury has taken in many billions of dollars in the tariffs we are charting china and other countries. still ahead, it is just the beginning of 2019, but some democrats have their eyes on 2020. we're going to show you which potential presidential candidates are already getting some support. plus, mike pompeo tries to clarify the administration's position toward syria but doesn't seem to offer any specifics. a but doesn't seem to offer any specifics. (burke) parking splat. and we covered it.
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welcome back, everybody. i want to get a check on your weather now with bill karins. >> we're watching that snow that was dumping snow yesterday in oklahoma. oklahoma city ended up with four inches of snow. that's more snow than they've had combined for the last three winters. so that storm is now on the move. we do have the flood threat in areas of the southeast. 10 million people are possibly going to be affected by thissed in flash flood watches. it includes the atlanta area. the heaviest rain and biggest impacts is now. we're watching the heaviest rain move over the region. there's also been a little squall line in southeast portions of alabama. that's a new tornado warning. we can get some gusty strong winds and an isolated tornado or two. at least i'll check on this to make sure it's not on the ground.
also i notice the snow is finally stopping in oklahoma city, but it will be a cleanup day. here's how the travel impacts are going to play out today. worst at the airport today in atlanta early in the day. afternoon should be just fine. heaviest rain charlotte to raleigh. d.c. it looks like around 5:00 p.m. some light rain begins for you. clearing out saturday. if you have travel plans through southern new england or the airports, you could have travel delays. it's a rain event so delays, not cancellations. >> i need a snowstorm. >> there's nothing in the next really six to seven days. we're talking at least mid january before anything. >> thanks, bill. two and a half weeks ago president trump immediate withdrawal of all
troops from syria claiming that's has been defeated. trump quickly backtracked on that claim and said the white house had given a four month window for the withdrawal, although the president later said that wasn't true either. yesterday mike pompeo attempted to clarify the administration's position without offering many specifics. >> we haven't changed our policy about continuing to make sure there is no isis resurgence and we're just going to do it in a way that is smarter and better and we can do that because of the alliances that president trump has built. >> is there a timetable or will it be based on the decision on the ground? >> that decision is done and we with withdraw from syria. the timeline will be that we continue to make sure our soldiers are safe, that we do all that we can to keep the coalition against iran together. our troops are coming pout. i can't give you a timeline. i don't want to let the
adversaries know precisely when it is we'll be departing. >> do you see an irani iranian/russia/syria alliance that would worry you? >> i am concerned about that. frankly the russians' behavior has not been good. this administration has been very serious at dealing with that. it's been tough and vladimir putin has not cooperated but we're still trying to find a mace to do th place to do that. >> are we in a new cold war? >> we're not quite in that place but we need the russians to behave in a way that's consistent with the rule of law and the value set that we hold every nation accountable to. their actions in many parts of the world aren't consistent with that. >> meanwhile on tuesday north korea's kim jong-un called on the u.s. to denuclearization if the u.s. wants north korea to do so and also issued a not so veiled threat that if the u.s.
insists on sanctions then pyongyang will consider a new path to safeguard our sovereignty. yesterday secretary pompeo addressed that while also minimizing the goals of a potential second summit. >> lots of work that is left to be done, but i'm confident that in the next short period of time president trump and chairman kim will get the chance to meet again and truly create a much better, safer america. >> will that be about and will there be the potential at that meeting of the denuclearization of the entire peninsula? >> i'd be surprised if we get all the way home in this meeting although it would be fantastic if we did. the lawyer for an american man arrested in russia for lajdlajd -- allegedly spying says his client has been charged with espionage.
pa andrea mitchell has more on this. >> reporter: paul whelan is in solitary confinement inside this notorious moscow jail. his russian lawyer telling u.s. media he's been officially charged with espionage. the ex-marine would have come to the attention of russian intelligence because unlike most american visitors he was active on a russian social network site. whelan was arrested while meeting in this moscow hotel with a russian citizen, allegedly receiving a thumb drive containing the names of security agency employees. his twin brother says he was there for a wedding. >> he definitely wouldn't do anything to break the laws. i can't imagine that he would have broken spy laws in any country let alone in russia. >> reporter: but there is increasing speculation whelan could be a bargaining chip for moscow to get back maria butina. whelan has been visited by u.s. ambassador to russia john
huntsman as the secretary of state demands that russia release any facts behind the charges. >> if the detention is not appropriate, we will demand his immediate return. >> our thanks to andrea mitchell for that report. coming up, while democrats celebrate the fact that they now control the house, senate majority leader mitch mcconnell has a message to his colleagues in congress just ahead. a messag in congress just ahead oh! oh! ♪ ozempic®! ♪ (announcer) people with type 2 diabetes are excited about the potential of once-weekly ozempic®. in a study with ozempic®, a majority of adults lowered their blood sugar and reached an a1c of less than seven and maintained it. oh! under seven? and you may lose weight. in the same one-year study, adults lost on average up to 12 pounds. oh! up to 12 pounds? a two-year study showed that ozempic® does not increase the risk of major cardiovascular events like heart attack, stroke, or death. oh! no increased risk? ♪ oh, oh, oh, ozempic®! ♪ ozempic® should not be the first medicine for treating diabetes,
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the 6'6" guard from north carolina, number 14 danny green. 6'7" forward from san diego state number 2 kawhi leonard. >> don't burn those bridges on the way out of town. welcome back. time now for sports. those were fans in san antonio booing kawhi leonard while cheering for danny green following similar behavior during a tribute video for the two former spurs in the return to the city after both were traded to the raptors last summer. fans gave leonard the same treatment each and every time he touched the ball during the game as a result of his sour exit after playing only nine games in his seventh and final season in san antonio last year following a disagreement with the team over how to handle his injury. while the jeers made leonard play decent, 21 points for him, danny green scored zero. the raptors got blown out 125-107. college hoops for the first
time in 126 regular season games the uconn women's basketball team lost falling to baylor on the road. they lost by double digits 68-57. they typically score like 80 to 100 a game. it's the first regular season loss for the huskies since november of 2014. only -- that loss came at the hands of baylor. finally to the nhl, the penguins' sidney crosby is giving awards out for fans who are doing a really good job of being chippy or chirpy. the rangers loss to the penguins 7-2. crosby went into the seats and gave out an award. he gave this one fan an actual stick, the heckler for his trash
talking ability. in a handwritten encryption that read "good chirps, take it easy on me next time." i like that. give a little credit to the fan. >> give a little shoutout to your fans sometimes. still ahead, democrats have officially taken over the house and they have a lot on their plate already. we're going to take a look at what's on the agenda for the new congress. plus, new reporting that president trump is considering jim webb, a former democratic senator and reagan era secretary of the navy for the next secretary of defense. navy for t secretary of defense you've tried moisturizer after moisturizer but there's one... that blows them all out of the water. hydro boost water gel from neutrogena®. with hyaluronic acid it goes beneath the surface to plump skin cells from within and lock in hydration leaving skin so supple,
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♪ welcome back, everybody. i'm yasmin vossoughian. it's the bottom of the hour. the new congress is ushering in the most diverse class of freshman lawmakers in history including a record breaking number of women. nbc news capitol hill correspondent kasie hunt has more. >> reporter: i'm kasie hunt on capitol hill. >> do you solemnly swear -- >> reporter: the 116th congress is the most diverse in history. there are now more than 100 female members, the most ever. >> good morning, everyone. today's the day. >> reporter: alexandria ocasio-cortez becoming the youngest woman in congress, tweeting this photo from vanity fair. it includes the first two native american women to serve and the first somali american woman.
and the first palestinian member of the house. >> it means so much to me that people like us are running for office and winning. >> reporter: she wore her mother's dress. house democrats also tweaked house rules to make way for muslim congresswoman of minnesota to wear her hijab on the house floor. the so-called pink wave cresting after president trump beat hillary clinton. 30 years ago there were 16 female democrats and 13 republicans. now, there are 89 democratic women serving and still only 13 republicans. a l alyssa slotkin beat a two-term republican in a pro-trump district. what has led to this swell of women? >> i think a lot of us were concerned about what we were hearing and then it was something personally. >> we're tired of men telling us to wait our turn.
it is our turn. >> reporter: it all presents a new landscape for president trump, who now has to negotiate with the democratic-led house led of course by a woman. house speaker nancy pelosi has stood up to president trump in public before at that oval office meeting before christmas. the question for today, whether that same dynamic is going to play out at their white house meeting this morning. >> quite a day for history, that's for sure. besides reopening the government, house democrats are planning to tackle a number of other issues in the new congress. the new house judiciary chair jerry nadler reintroduced a bill yesterday to protect special counsel robert mueller. if mueller is fired the bill would allow him to challenge the dismissal in federal court. the party is taking steps to intervene in a court case where a texas judge struck down obamacare as unconstitutional. house speaker nancy pelosi addressed climate change, announcing a new select panel
that will come up with ideas to confront the issue. >> we must also face the existential threat of our time, the climate crisis, a crisis manifested in natural disasters of epic proportions. the american people understand the urgency. the people are ahead of the congress. the congress must join them. >> just hours after getting into office, a video appears to show a new member of congress using derogatory language about removing president trump from office. in august of 2016 when talib was a member of the state legislature she was one of several protesters who interrupted an economic policy speech by then-candidate donald trump. talib called for impeachment proceedings against trump to begin, writing his conduct has
created a constitutional crisis that we must confront now. in a brief video clip she appears to have shared those feelings with explicit language while addressing a gathering held by the progressive group move-on in washington last night. watch this. >> people love you and you win and when your son looks at you and says, mama, look, you won, bullies don't win. i said, baby, they don't. we're going to go in there and we're going to impeach the [ bleep ]. >> nbc news has reached out to the person who posted the video and is seeking comment from the congresswoman, of course. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell owned the senate with this message. >> we know that the senate with the republican majority is fertile soil for big bipartisan accomplishments. the question is, will the newly
democratic house join in this good momentum or bring it to a standstill. it's a clear choice and it will be clear to the american people watching all of this at home. good governance or political performance art? the public interest or political spite? policy making or presidential harassment? >> so one week after president trump said that acting defense secretary patrick shanahan may remain in the position for a long time, the "new york times" reporting that trump is considering jim webb to be the next secretary of defense according to three officials. webb is a navy academy graduate who fought in vietnam, served as president reagan's assistant secretary of defense before becoming the secretary of the navy. he later switched political parties and won a senate seat as a democrat in 2006 and was part
of the 2016 democratic presidential field very early on. several of his views also appeared to align closely with some of trump's current positions including being against the iraq war, being against the iran nuclear deal and wanting to aggressively confront china. a senior defense department official tells the times that webb's name has been circulating in the white house. a separate official said that members of mike pence and mick mulvaney's teams have reached out to webb. however, the paper notes it is uncheer as to h unclear how seriously he is being considered. the white house has declined comment on this report so far. joining me again from washington white house correspondent for reuters jeff mason. jeff, let's talk about jim webb here. if these reports are true, how could this potential appointment as a democrat go over with the
president's base? >> well, that's a good question. i think they would focus on senator webb's background. he used to be a republican. obviously he served in the reagan administration. as you just highlighted, his views on a lot of key topics with regard to foreign policy and defense align with president trump's. it could also be a way, if the white house were to pursue this potential nomination, for the administration to reach out a little bit to the center, to reach out to democrats in an era of divided government and say, look, we're going to follow what used to be a tradition of having one member of the cabinet be a part of the opposition party. but as far as his base is concerned, i suspect that people who support president trump will be more interested in whether or not a secretary of defense's policy positions align with the president versus whether or not he has spent some time in the democratic or republican party. >> i've got to say serving under reagan has got to help as well.
>> absolutely. >> let's talk about, of course, this historic moment in congress yesterday showcasing so much diversity, really more than ever before. how is that going to play in to this new congress's agenda going forward? >> people's background affect how they work as lawmakers. that's something that this new diverse congress will bring from looking at virtually every policy that they look at. i think it will also be something that really highlights a difference in some ways between the two parties. going into 2020, democrats no doubt will talk a lot about diversity and will talk about having that diversity in the body that is representative of the american people. now, that's something that will potentially be something they highlight going into the 2020 election. still ahead, the losses
continue on wall street as the dow sheds more than 600 points on growing fears of an economic slowdown. we're going to get the latest on whether markets will be able to bounce back today. plus, bill karins back with a check on your forecast. plus, bill karins back with a check on your forecast ♪ ♪i've been really tryin', baby ♪tryin' to hold back this feeling for so long♪
welcome back, everybody. i want to start with a check on your weather with nbc meteorologist bill karins. >> we put this together just for you. this is pictures from albuquerque, new mexico, where it snowed over the last couple of days, especially tuesday into wednesday. we're going to say where is the snow. so since december 1st, albuquerque has had 5.3 inches of snow. >> but that's nothing. >> that's not a lot, but let's compare it to how much snow has fallen in boston, new york, philly, boston and d.c. since december 1st. around thanksgiving in november new york city had snow.
but since december 1st, hardly anything. it's been unusually a lock of snow. boston's almost never gone this long. >> we need to pray to the snow gods, because the kids need the snow in new york. >> just on the weekend. all the teachers are yelling at me. they want the snow days themselves. today's forecast is another rainstorm. we're getting another snow day probably in oklahoma city. but otherwise it's all rain now and it's pouring in areas through georgia this morning and the panhandle of florida. the rain will make it to d.c. about 6:00 p.m., philadelphia not until about 10:00 p.m., new york city after midnight. you'll wake up to the rain. let's get into that weekend forecast and track it. it's a soggy first half of the day around d.c. to baltimore. then it improved. new york city, the rain will be with us until mid afternoon, maybe toward the dinner hour. even central new england is
going to be warm, 45 in boston. by the time we get to sunday, widespread warmth, 50s and 60s in the middle of the country, 40 in chicago. sunday we've got a football game in baltimore, should be around 50 degrees on sunday. again, unless you're in the mountain west or on the west coast on sunday it looks like a really nice day east of the rockies. still ahead, top democrats begin to throw their support behind just some of the names expected to be in the mix for the 2020 presidential election. plus, yes, this is real. president trump continues to lean on "game of thrones" to help push his agenda. we're going to break down the president's busy day of meme making next. busy day of meme making next. with my bladder leakage, the products i've tried just didn't fit right. they were too loose. it's getting in the way of our camping trips. but with a range of sizes, depend fit-flex is made for me. with a range of sizes for all body types, depend fit-flex underwear is guaranteed to be your best fit.
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did you say a wall -- >> what's the message behind that? >> the president has had sanctions on any number of countries and individuals. the treasury department certainly has. >> does the president watch "game of thrones"? >> i'm not aware of that. i've never seen it. i don't watch a lot of tv. >> the poster, the phrase, it's comparing sanctions to a zombie apocalypse. what was the point of the poster yesterday at the meeting? >> the president spoke for about 95 minutes or so and took q & a and had presentations from his cabinet members. we respectfully sat there and listened to them because we're
actually interested in the facts and figures. >> kind of avoiding question there. that was kellyanne conway doing her best to explain president trump's display of a "game of thrones" inspired poster at his cabinet meeting the other day. apparently president trump has been busy practicing his meme making abilities, displaying some of his work yesterday. the president posted this picture on instagram of a new "game of thrones" inspired image with the kpcaption the wall is coming. prior to that image, the president also posted this meme mocking democratic senator elizabeth warren and the results of her recent dna test she took to show she does have some native american ancestry. senator warren largely brushed off the president's attack. >> how about if the president spend his time getting the
government back up? we're now in the 13th day of a shutdown. we have hundreds of thousands of federal employees who aren't getting their paychecks and work that's not being done all around this country. those are the issues we need to worry about. >> with that let's talk 2020. as the 2020 field is beginning to take shape, some democrats are starting to throw their support behind presidential candidates. martin o'malley shut down speculation that he would run again. he's instead hoping beto o'rourke will enter the race. o'malley listed the reasons why he believes the former congressman is the person to, quote, bring us together and turn us around to create a better american future. meanwhile, senator diane feinstein has another contender in mind. it's not kamala harris. feinstein told reporters yesterday that she believes joe
biden brings a level of experience and seniority to the table through his previous work on the judiciary committee and as the former vice president. new york governor andrew cuomo also recently backed joe biden' prospects saying that he had the, quote, secret ingredient we need to win for a democrat which is credibility. let's talk economy here. u.s. stocks are hoping for some relief this morning after another day of massive drops following apple's warning from the impact of president trump's trade wars. the dow shed another 6630 points. or nearly 3% yesterday. the s&p and nasdaq were down about 2.35% to 3%. the latest tick comes after apple says it was cutting its earnings guidance over slowing iphone sales. technology stocks as a whole sank 5%, marking the sector's
worst day in seven years. manufacturing came in weak for last month. heightening investor concerns about slowing global growth. amid the fallout over apple's move, a top economic adviser to the president acknowledged that the trade war is damaging u.s. businesses by dealing with china. coming up, axios's mike allen has a look at this morning's one big thing. and coming up on "morning joe," nancy pelosi once again becomes speaker of the house and takes the first steps to end the government shutdown. pelosi's number two, majority leader steny hoyer. we'll break down the democrats' agenda and where they may find common ground with president trump. "morning joe," moments away. prt trump. "morning joe," moments away. (dad) got it? (boy) got it. (dad) it's slippery. (boy) nooooooo... (grandma) nooooooo...
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joining us from washington, co-founder of axios, mike allen.
happy new year, mike. >> happy '19 and happy friday. >> gotta love it. talk to us about axios' one big thing today. >> 2020 should be different for women. so alexi mchammond talked to a number of waiting consultants and found for women in 2020, there should be safety in numbers. after elizabeth warren announced the other day about questions about her likability and the story about that on the front page of the boston globe today, people who are veterans of campaigns said with at least four prominent women likely to run for president, on senator harris in california, elizabeth warren, keers tin jill brairst
new york, they may escape some of the grilling hillary clinton got as the first woman. >> why the headline should versus it will be. >> should, could, will -- >> no, it's a big difference there. there's some trepidation, i feel like. >> what is your view of the difference in could and should there? i just feel like there will be means definitively the field has changed with regard to women. whereas if it should, there could be some outliers that could change that. >> every single sign is that things are changing.
if you look over my shoulder, madam speaker and the historic day with so many women being sworn in, taking selfies. but you look at some of the coverage of senator warren and it shows things have not change as definitively as people might like. that's the should -- >> versus will. >> exactly. >> let's talk this new headline that axios has out there entitled courting hillary. so people would hear that and think, wait, what? but it's not actually what people really think, is it? >> yeah. so this is the scoop and we're told that a number of the 2020 candidates have been meeting behind the scenes with secretary clinton asking her advice about running, trying to court her for a possible endorsement down the road. we're told that some more of these meetings are scheduled. so some people are going to see her.
some of the people run into her. but a clinton confidant tells me that in 2020, she will be one of the most valuable endorsers in the democratic party who is not named obama. >> so there isn't a cause out there with regard to the hillary endorsement that may be considered a bad thing for 2020? >> when you look at primary voters, which is what this 2020 field is think about at the moment, the hillary clinton endorsement would be valuable. and this is also a little bit of insurance. these candidates don't want clinton working against them behind the scenes. she's met with a mix of female and male candidates. if you think about what they're having to do right now, these people who are preparing to run, are behind the scenes having to line up staff, line up donors,
line up operatives, that's a very clintonesque roster. >> let's talk shutdown very quickly while i have you, mike. how are we doing in terms of the record of the longest shutdown and how could that soon be broken? >> so this is a graphic that we just popped up on axios.com. and a week from tomorrow, saturday, a weekend from now, the shutdown will break the record, 21 days during the clinton administration. we're on 14 today. i talked to people on the white house, on the hill. they don't see how this is broken. last night we saw on msnbc's air, now speaker pelosi saying there's not going to be a wall. do people not get that? now the president is saying he would feel foolish if he backed off. that's a recipe for breaking this record that no one wants to break. >> mike allen, thank you. we're going to see you in just a
little bit on "morning joe." you can sign up for the news line, signup.axios.com. that does it for me. "morning joe" starts right now. >> it was one of those split screen moments for america. on one side, house speaker nancy pelosi and ushering in one of the most diverse lawmakers in history. on the other, president trump recommitted to the government shutdown over his demand for a border wall. just look at the imagery. it speaks volumes at the start of this new congress. but so do the policies for the economy, for congressional investigations, for politics, and for the very direction of where this nation chooses to go. >> it is quite a picture. >> quite a picture. quite a split screen.